tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5469303850160738825.post5954574676440596819..comments2023-03-16T00:19:35.389-07:00Comments on Vintage One: 20 years of Mtn Bike passion and counting.: Is steel really real?grannygearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06896238587895388993noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5469303850160738825.post-85247088291390509542009-03-21T18:08:00.000-07:002009-03-21T18:08:00.000-07:00Steel IS real.Aluminum IS real.Carbon IS real. Tit...Steel IS real.<BR/>Aluminum IS real.<BR/>Carbon IS real. <BR/>Titanium IS real.<BR/>Scandium IS real.<BR/>People’s false perception of reality IS real.<BR/>Riding Mountain Bikes IS real fun.<BR/><BR/>Ride any of the above that are poorly designed & they will ride harsh, rigid, flexible in the wrong place or too stiff in the wrong place. You can buy any of the above that are extremely heavy or light. If you want a well-designed bike that is comfortable to ride, handles well, & accelerates well, it will cost you. Qualified engineers make decent money & quality materials are more expensive than inferior materials. A frame that works for you may not work for me, materials, geometry, and material manipulation all affect the way a frame works. Just as important is your size, height, weight, ride ability & geography you ride in. <BR/>If you have it ride it. If you’re purchasing, ride it before buying it.<BR/><BR/>Forget Medical Marijuana, legalize PCT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5469303850160738825.post-73754900355217569962009-03-20T16:31:00.000-07:002009-03-20T16:31:00.000-07:00I've been thinking alot about this lately. I love ...I've been thinking alot about this lately. I love my steel frame (XXIX), but I've had my eye on adding a Misfit Dissent. The XXIX will be with me for years, but I'd love to drop a little weight and maybe add a little stiffness to the frame.<BR/>I ride in the mountains of Utah and either stand and climb or hang back and roll the descents. I'm wondering how much the steel does for me when I don't spend that much time in the saddle.<BR/>Or maybe I'm just going through that time of year when the slopes are turning to mush and the trails are still melting. I think I just need to ride.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5469303850160738825.post-51994258788010487802009-03-20T15:55:00.000-07:002009-03-20T15:55:00.000-07:00GT...see, that is what I am thinking too. I am le...GT...see, that is what I am thinking too. I am leaning more and more to the best performance under pedaling and less to the smooth as silk, but noodly.<BR/><BR/>The thing is, I think that, true to the nature of a good spring, the steel frame puts some of that 'swing' at the BB into forward motion at some point, but I could be wrong.<BR/><BR/>I am going to borrow a Dos Niner for a putt when it gets it's Reba fixed. Should be interesting.grannygearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06896238587895388993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5469303850160738825.post-61455185299593270402009-03-20T15:35:00.000-07:002009-03-20T15:35:00.000-07:00MT, if I might make an observation: The thing with...MT, if I might make an observation: The thing with steel is that it can be nice and comfy- (Milwaukee Bicycle Company 29"er), but that verticle compliance is also manifested in lateral compliance to some degree. You have no "free lunch" with steel in that regard. <BR/><BR/>Something like the Mamasita/Selma, on the other hand, is vertically compliant due to the stay design, and stiff under power due to the Scandium construction/design. The ultmate in this regard is the Dos Niner. <BR/><BR/>So I think you can have your cake and eat it too, but not so much with a steel frame.Guitar Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5469303850160738825.post-80124078825560524932009-03-19T14:52:00.000-07:002009-03-19T14:52:00.000-07:00Jason-So you think a steel frame would ride nice e...Jason-<BR/><BR/>So you think a steel frame would ride nice enough compared to a 'Sita to give up the light weight and snappy ride?<BR/><BR/>grannygeargrannygearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06896238587895388993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5469303850160738825.post-47898221433332592572009-03-19T14:16:00.000-07:002009-03-19T14:16:00.000-07:00I've always sort of subscribed to the horse feathe...I've always sort of subscribed to the horse feathers. When folks talk about "flexing", I just don't feel it in frames. I'm just TOO busy on the trail to notice. I can see frame material "dulling" trail chatter (HT), but "flex"? not sure.<BR/><BR/>If I ever get another HT it will be Ti or Steel to soak up a little. I lean towards Ti because of it's longevity, but towards steel for its AFFORDABILITY. I will say my Mamasita was the best of both, with the carbon stays. Then I added a carbon post and it got even better. Then I sold it for my Big Mama, so I could roll over everything in my path! :)Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10931403291668582311noreply@blogger.com